To implement reusable packaging in a sustainable system is a key challenge for catering and food retail businesses. To help companies in this sustainable transition, Jan Patzer and Lennart Heynercreated Crafting Future. The young start-up helps develop and produce sustainable packaging, but it also advises companies when it comes to develop a circular model. In this episode I chat with both cofounders about the different aspects of their vision but also recycling, deposit systems and many more.