As questions are asked of top earning players and whether or not they should take a pay cut to protect the jobs of other staff, I ask Daniel Storey if we should be looking first at the billionaire owners. We chat about certain clubs taking advantage of government schemes which were not designed for them, football as a business and how precarious just a few months off might be, games behind closed doors and more. And away from football, I'm joined by Arsenal fan Tom Marsh, drummer for Lana del Rey, to chat about his life as a touring musician, how he got started, and how listening to the Arsecast up a mountain in Chile provided some much needed solace. Follow Daniel @DanielStorey85 - Follow Tom @TomMarshMusic For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy