Scummy Mummy Helen Thorn gave birth to her first daughter in a birthing pool at home with no pain relief. She and Clemmie talk about having an ‘annoyingly perfect’ birth, using a TENS machine, and why birth sometimes involves sieves. They also take a question about pooing during labour, and Clemmie explains why midwives often get excited about it. You can find Helen on Instagram: instagram.com/helenwearsasize18 Follow Clemmie's Mother of Daughters account: instagram.com/mother_of_daughters/ Follow Clemmie's Gas and Air account: instagram.com/gasandair/ Clemmie's book How to Grow a Baby and Push It Out is available now: https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Grow-Baby-Push-Out/dp/1785040383 Birth Stories is produced by Hannah Varrall and created by Off Script *This podcast is not to replace medical advice. Always speak to your midwife or doctor if you have any concerns.* For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy