Jennifer Lisa Vest is a scientist, philosopher, and intuitive. She holds a PhD in Indigenous Philosophy from UC Berkeley, an MA in History from Howard, and a BA in Physics from Hampshire College. Her first career was as a philosophy professor at Seattle University and the University of Central Florida. Spiritually, Vest is a Medical Intuitive, an Akashic Records reader, a certified Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique practitioner, and a Master Reiki practitioner, and has been trained in the traditions of African American Hoodoo., Native American Sweatlodge, Jamaican Revivalism, Trinidadian Shango, and Spiritualism from community elders. Books: The Ethical Psychic: A Beginner's Guide to Healing with Integrity, Avoiding Unethical Encounters, and Using Your Gifts for Good Ancestor Count: Four Corner Poems (Philopoetics) Websites: drvestmedicalintuitive.com drjenniferlisavest.com Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group Transcript and summary of this interview Interview recorded October 7, 2023. Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast. Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump 00:05:40 - Childhood Experiences with Spirits and Mediumship 00:10:31 - Helping Stuck Souls Cross Over 00:15:33 - Simultaneous Lifetimes 00:20:35 - The Unsustainability of Society and Potential Collapse 00:25:43 - The Importance of Being of Service in Spiritual Work 00:30:36 - Indigenous Apprenticeship Programs 00:35:22 - Dangers of Pretending to be a Medicine Person 00:40:16 - Preparing for an Altered State Experience 00:44:59 - The Importance of Humility in Psychic Work 00:49:40 - Importance of Humility and Sensitivity to Client Needs 00:54:02 - Client Needs vs Practitioner's Perspective 00:58:18 - Tapping into Higher Sources 01:02:58 - The Vulnerability of Mediums 01:07:54 - Risks of Mediumship and Channeling 01:13:09 - Causes of Mental Illness in Indigenous Contexts 01:18:04 - Financial Responsibility in the Spiritual Community 01:22:57 - The Ethics of Charging for Healing Services 01:27:42 - The Harm of Brutal Honesty 01:32:28 - Ethics of Controlling Others with Magic 01:37:21 - Ethical Use of Spiritual Gifts, Misuse of Spiritual Gifts and Sexual Energy 01:42:12 - Spiritual Affair and its Consequences 01:47:01 - Assisting Spirits in Crossing Over 01:51:53 - Interference with Spirits 01:56:44 - The Phenomenon of "Walk-Ins" 02:01:31 - Choosing Teachers and Company 02:06:24 - Examining Influences and Doing Emotional Work 02:11:09 - The Harm of Inaccurate Readings and Lack of Compassion 02:15:53 - Becoming a Hollow Bone & Living a Balanced Life 02:20:43 - The Importance of Balance in Healing 02:25:41 - Exploring the Connection between Quantum Physics and Spirituality