We're joined today by long-time investigative reporter, Janet. We discuss the bloodiest 4th of July weekend in Los Angeles for quite some time... this is definitely a darker episode. Kay is the only one who curses, and that's only because she has a horrific optical migraine and a fire detector is going off in her building. We compare lives in LA versus the east coast, and whether there's even a future for California. Are we finally seeing the reality of the open-air prison they want to turn this place into?  We are officially up and running on Twitch, so be sure to SUBSCRIBE, FOLLOW, GIFT US A SUB and DONATE thanks!!  Remember to SUBSCRIBE to the Patreon by clicking here.  Follow us on social media: Twitter, Instagram. Follow Kay’s personal accounts for Twitter and Instagram. Contact us with your questions, concerns, photos, videos, or to let us know about the stories we’re missing!  Carol & Kay depend on donations and support from listeners like you, so please feel free to donate here.