For Helen Garner's 80th birthday last year, Melbourne's superb Wheeler Centre arranged an evening of pomp and circumstance to celebrate, as part of its Spring Fling festival. The event was MC'd by Chatter darling Virginia Gay, there was an introduction from Miles Franklin winner Jennifer Down (do NOT miss Bodies Of Light if you haven't read it yet) and concluded with a lengthy on-stage conversation between Garner and Crabb. Recognising that this exchange is grade-A Chatter Catnip, The Wheeler Centre - bless their cotton socks - have allowed us to use the audio for Chat 10 Looks 3. Crabb turns 50 today, and thought this steaming hot plate of vintage Garner might be a nice present for Chatters everywhere. Happy Birthday to all! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.