How does poetry emerge out of an ordinary life? Willard Spiegelman [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/2203586/willard-spiegelman/] joins the podcast to talk about "Losing Track of Language [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Selected_Poems_of_Amy_Clampitt/2yTV96EnAXIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA122&printsec=frontcover]," a poem by Amy Clampitt [https://www.amyclampitt.com/], a poet who was, in the words of our guest, one of the great "late bloomers" in American poetry. Willard Spiegelman is the author of Nothing Stays Put: The Life and Poetry of Amy Clampitt [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/622884/nothing-stays-put-by-willard-spiegelman/] (Knopf, 2023).  He was for many years the Hughes Professor of English at Southern Methodist University and the editor of the Southwest Review. He is the author of eight books of literary criticism and writes regularly about art and literature for The Wall Street Journal.  Please follow, rate, and review the podcast if you like what you hear, and share it with a friend. Subscribe to my Substack [https://kamranjavadizadeh.substack.com/] to receive a newsletter with each episode.