An episode I've been waiting for from the beginning: Andrew Epstein [https://english.fsu.edu/faculty/andrew-epstein] joins the podcast to talk about John Ashbery [https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/john-ashbery], one of the most important poets of the last hundred years, and his beautiful and haunting poem of mid-career, "Street Musicians [https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1975/12/11/street-musicians/]." Andrew is Professor of English at Florida State University and the author of three books: Beautiful Enemies: Friendship and Postwar American Poetry [https://global.oup.com/academic/product/beautiful-enemies-9780195388985?lang=en&cc=us] (Oxford UP, 2009), Attention Equals Life: The Pursuit of the Everyday in Contemporary Poetry and Culture [https://global.oup.com/academic/product/attention-equals-life-9780190887407?cc=us&lang=en&] (Oxford UP, 2016), and The Cambridge Introduction to American Poetry since 1945 [https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/cambridge-introduction-to-american-poetry-since-1945/F5F0FF984C9A18A42CB270F69D1CF74A](Cambridge UP, 2022). He blogs about the poets and artists of the New York School at Locus Solus [https://newyorkschoolpoets.wordpress.com/] and his essays and articles have appeared in such publications as the New York Times Book Review, Contemporary Literature, LARB, American Literary  History, The Wallace Stevens Journal, Comparative Literature Studies, Jacket2, and Raritan. You can follow Andrew on Twitter [https://twitter.com/AndrewEpstein3]. As always, please rate and review the podcast if you like what you hear, make sure you're following it to get new episodes automatically uploaded to your feed, and share an episode with a friend. You can also subscribe to my Substack [https://kamranjavadizadeh.substack.com/], where you'll get (eventually!) a newsletter to go with each episode.