6 episodes
Colour-Full Stacy Jayne, Sena Zungu and Laura Rapson
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- Society & Culture
Stacy Jayne and Sena Zungu interview South Africans about how race has shaped their experiences. They aim to help bridge the racial divide through candid and inclusive conversations that encourage empathy and understanding.
As a privileged, white woman, Stacy doesn't claim to be an expert on race relations, but is on a journey to grasp how race shapes our world. With Sena by her side, they have uncomfortable conversations that challenge perspectives. Each episode features personal anecdotes, expert insights, historical context, and recommendations for promoting racial equity and inclusion.
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The stories we tell our children
Sena and Stacy sit down with Refiloe Moahloli, the best-selling author of the critically acclaimed children's books, How Many Ways Can You Say Hello? and We Are One. With her diverse - and more importantly inclusive - books as proof points, they discuss the importance of having representation in books, movies and toys.
Refiloe talks about what inspired her to write her first book, How Many Ways Can You Say Hello?, her own experiences growing up in a predominantly white school and how that impacted her identity, the progress in representation she’s seen since starting her writing journey and how we still need to improve, and the importance of understanding everyone’s origin story to achieve true representation.
Learn more about Refiloe:
refiloemoahloli.com
www.facebook.com/refiloemoahloli
www.instagram.com/refiloemoahloli/
*This podcast was produced by Laura Rapson -
Diversity is being invited to the party. Inclusion is being asked to dance
In this episode Sena and Stacy challenge and consider forward thinking solutions to assimilation into white workplaces. They're joined by Buhle Dlamini, an award winning entrepreneur, author of 6 books, and international speaker who has consulted with businesses on the benefits of diversity with cultural intelligence for over 18 years.
They discuss how workplace culture has eurocentrism at its foundation and how black people have to embody and embrace “white culture” within the workplace not only as a means of self-preservation but also for career advancement.
Buhle describes a racist attack on his family, explains why the honeymoon period post George Floyd is over, discusses what organisations should do to truly embrace inclusion and much more.
Learn more about Buhle here:
https://www.buhledlamini.com/
https://tomorrowtodayglobal.com/
This episode was produced by Laura Rapson -
Honour Identity: Say My Name (Say My Name)
In this episode, Stacy and Sena are in conversation with Gcotyelwa Jimlongo about the significance of names. From personal anecdotes of mispronunciation to unpacking the influence of colonial history behind this common issue, they talk about the subtle yet insidious racial undertones embedded in misnaming and mispronunciation.
They explore the harmful effects of the erasure of identity linked to this normalised practice and shed light on the importance of acknowledging and honouring cultural heritage. Together, they discuss strategies for moving forward in a manner that respects and celebrates the significance of African ethnic names and their meanings. -
Questioning hair and beauty
This episode was inspired by Stacy’s daughter, Faith’s critique of her natural hair. Join Mmakgabo Dlomo, CEO of Intombi Hair Care, and Sena Zungu, a young woman with a passion for identity discourse, as they peel back the layers of black women's relationships with their hair.
Mmakgabo shares her journey to embracing her natural hair, highlighting the prevalent feelings of shame in black women's hair stories. Sena reflects on her upbringing with 4c hair, delving into societal pressures and imposed Eurocentric beauty ideals that led to insecurities about her hair. Together, they celebrate the beauty of black hair while acknowledging the underlying microaggressions and prejudices around afro-textured hair; setting the stage for a raw discussion around identity and self-love.
You can learn more about Intombi here:
www.intombihaircare.co.za
Facebook: www.facebook.com/intombisa
Instagram: www.instagram.com/intombi_sa
TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@intombi_sa?lang=en
This episode was produced by Laura Rapson -
What is this umlungu snake smile?
In this episode we investigate a curious behaviour of white women when they walk past a black person they don’t know. We’ve named it the “umlungu snake smile”. You know what we’re talking about right?… that kind of straight-lined lip, half smile thing.
What is this thing that white women do and why do they do it? How does it make black people feel? And what would be a better way to handle this moment in future? After getting some initial feedback from black and white people, Stacy sat down with her friend Kuhle Belu to unpack this behaviour in detail, and why Kuhle believes conversations like this are important. Join us on our first episode as we start moving from complacency to connection.
This episode was produced by Laura Rapson -
Why would I listen to a white woman talk about race?
In this first episode, Stacy sits down with her colleague and friend, Sena Zungu, to discuss what motivated her to start this podcast. Sena doesn't hold back - asking Stacy pointed questions about her journey toward racial awareness as a white woman living in South Africa. Together, they explore Stacy's observations of race relations, her hopes and fears in starting these conversations, and the pivotal moments that led her to this point. Join us as we engage with uncomfortable truths and seek to understand the complexities of race, privilege, and perspective.