Oteil goes solo this time, diving deep into the jam band scene's history with special guest Dean Budnick, a pivotal figure in popularizing the genre. Budnick, an American writer, filmmaker, and editor-in-chief of Relix Magazine, shares fascinating insights into the evolution of jam bands. His experiences range from authoring books about the scene to creating podcasts focused on iconic bands like Phish. This episode is a treasure trove of stories and insights, revealing the rich tapestry of the jam band community. The conversation takes an exciting turn as Oteil and Budnick reminisce about their personal journeys in the music world. They explore the connections and moments that shaped their careers, offering listeners a unique, behind-the-scenes look at the music industry. From discussing Budnick's books and his partnership with legendary promoter Peter Shapiro to sharing anecdotes about Colonel Bruce Hampton, this episode is filled with enriching and entertaining stories that music lovers will adore. In this episode, Oteil and Budnick explore the broader impact of music, discussing how it shapes cultural and personal landscapes. They touch on themes like the importance of intention in art, the role of mentors in nurturing new talent, and the transformative power of music. Their conversation is more than just a trip down memory lane; it's a profound reflection on the role of music in our lives. Dean Budnick is the editor-in-chief of Relix. He is the co-author of Blues Traveler frontman John Popper’s memoir Suck and Blow: And Other Stories I’m Not Supposed To Tell as well as Ticket Masters: The Rise of the Concert Industry and How the Public Got Scalped, which chronicles the previously untold story of the modern concert industry, revealing the origins, development and ongoing strategies of companies such as Ticketmaster, Live Nation, StubHub and the efforts of numerous independent competitors. He continues to report on the concert industry for Billboard. Dean Budnick is the editor-in-chief of Relix. He is the co-author of Peter Shapiro’s The Music Never Stops: What Putting on 10,000 Shows Has Taught Me About Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Magic (now out in paperback) and Blues Traveler frontman John Popper’s memoir Suck and Blow: And Other Stories I’m Not Supposed To Tell as well as Ticket Masters: The Rise of the Concert Industry and How the Public Got Scalped, which chronicles the previously untold story of the modern concert industry, revealing the origins, development and ongoing strategies of companies such as Ticketmaster, Live Nation, StubHub and the efforts of numerous independent competitors. He continues to report on the concert industry for Billboard and Variety. He is the host and writer of the C13 Originals podcast Long May They Run. Season one which focused on Phish, was selected as a top podcast by the New York Times. Comes A Time Podcast and content posted by Comes A Time is presented solely for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical or mental health condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices