Synopsis: Owen, Laine and a 200 year-old gay tortoise explore the history of scientific research into gay animals. From gay swans to self-pleasuring elephants and amorous giraffes, they learn how scientists have been understanding and misunderstanding queerness in nature for centuries. And they introduce us to a bold researcher in the 1990’s who helped us see nature for what it is – queer as f**k. Guest: Joe Hollins - author of Vet at the End of the Earth Joe Hollins - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joehollins_vet/ Additional music: Audio Network This show cannot get made without you. Become a supporter and get every episode one week early and ad-free. Sponsors: AG1 You can listen ad-free on Amazon Music—included with Prime. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.