We're back! Again! And so is Dave Abrahams, after a long period outside the C++ community. So we thought we should hear about what he's been up to and what he's doing now. We end up getting some fascinating insights into the design and evolution of the Swift programming language, which Dave joined the team behind quite early on. While Swift draws inspiration from many languages, the core of the team behind it - including Dave - were C++ experts - but experts who wanted to take from the best, yet learn from the mistakes, of the past. Listen to this episode to find out if they pulled it off! Links: C++ on Sea 2022- Announcing next year's eventC++ North 2022 CfP- New C++ conference in TorontoC++Now 2022 Call For SubmissionsIntroducing Remote Development for JetBrains IDEsJetBrains Fleet- Early access for upcoming distributed editor/ IDEModernizing your code with C++20- Phil's post on the SonarSource blogDave's C++ Template Metaprogramming bookQuantum Physics For Dummies