We talk to Katy Carl, editor in chief of Dappled Things magazine, about the O Antiphons, which are recited by the Catholic Church at Vespers in the last days of Advent. We discuss the recent popularity of the O Antiphons, the depth of meaning and symbology in the O Antiphons, the importance of beauty in worship, and the centrol role of the Magnificat as the prayer of a woman. Get your copy of Katy Carl's new book from CTS, Praying the Great O Antiphons: https://bit.ly/greatoantiphons Katy Carl is the editor in chief of Dappled Things magazine and the author of As Earth Without Water (Wiseblood Books, 2021). She is a senior affiliate fellow of Penn’s Program for Research on Religion and Urban Civil Society, and is pursuing her MFA in creative writing at the University of St. Thomas in Houston.