Before the COVID-19 crisis, we were already acutely aware of the need for a broader conversation around data privacy: look no further than the Snowden revelations, Cambridge Analytica, the New York Times Privacy Project, the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) in Europe, and the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA). In the age of COVID-19, these issues are far more acute. We also know that governments and businesses exploit crises to consolidate and rearrange power, claiming that citizens need to give up privacy for the sake of security. But is this tradeoff a false dichotomy? And what type of tools are being developed to help us through this crisis? In this episode, Katharine Jarmul, Head of Product at Cape Privacy, a company building systems to leverage secure, privacy-preserving machine learning and collaborative data science, will discuss all this and more, in conversation with Dr. Hugo Bowne-Anderson, data scientist and educator at DataCamp.Links from the show FROM THE INTERVIEW Katharine on TwitterKatharine on LinkedInContact Tracing in the Real World (By Ross Anderson)The Price of the Coronavirus Pandemic (By Nick Paumgarten)Do We Need to Give Up Privacy to Fight the Coronavirus? (By Julia Angwin)Introducing the Principles of Equitable Disaster Response (By Greg Bloom)Cybersecurity During COVID-19 ( By Bruce Schneier)