Karen Conti represented John Wayne Gacy, one of the most notorious American serial killers, on death row and is one of Chicago’s most prominent lawyers and legal analysts. Thirty years after Gacy’s execution, Conti looks back through the eyes of a seasoned professional on the legal and media circus that ensued—and her countless hours of detailed conversation with the killer clown. We hear for the first time about Gacy’s gruesome “Body Book.” Were there more victims? Conspirators involved in the murders? What secrets were buried with him?   To purchase her book "Killing Time with John Wayne Gacy": https://amzn.to/3xCKPWR   10% off Neurogum made with sustainably-sourced natural caffeine, L-theanine, as well as vitamins B6 and B12, which have been scientifically shown to boost attention and enhance focus: https://neurogum.com/?utm_commission=deadtalkspodcast&platform=grin&link_id=1654933&token=WtumfL5E9dMY2DxZOVhMDDU7Z1f0OkyV&contact_id=8c837874-1ae8-4097-96fb-4809bfd0b22f&attribution_window=30   Join the DEAD Talk Patreon for only $5 to support our mission & and gain access to exclusive content and features: 👉  https://patreon.com/deadtalks?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink   Purchase “Not Dead Yet” or DEAD Talk trucker hats here with free domestic shipping: 👉  https://deadtalks.myshopify.com/   All links to everything DEAD Talks: 👉  https://linktr.ee/deadtalks   DEAD Talks with David Ferrugio engages death a little bit differently. Each new guest shares their experience with grieving or perspective on death in a way that shatters the “don’t talk about death” taboo. Grief doesn't end; it evolves. Having lost his father on September 11th when he was 12, he learned the importance of discussion and sharing other people's stories. DEAD Talks Podcast hopes to make it a little easier to talk about grief, loss, death, mourning, trauma, or whatever it may be. You may cry, but you also may laugh.   ⁠Follow DEAD Talks Podcast on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok + more⁠ ⁠www.deadtalks.net⁠