Bob is someone I have long admired for his witness of the ways of Jesus. He talks with us about his own story, the need to break allegiances with our dominant cultural idols (even national ones), and the ongoing journey of being faithful to Jesus in an age of rising nationalism disguised as Christianity. This is so eye opening and beautiful. tierra-nueva.org peoplesseminary.org Get full access to Right Side Up: Danielle Strickland at daniellestrickland.substack.com/subscribe