We introduce the Equiosity podcast by saying that it is about all things equine with a special emphasis on the horse human bond. So why are we talking about dogs? It’s not just that many horse people have dogs which makes these crossover conversations of interest to many listeners. It’s good to emphasize that the training we talk about in these podcasts can be used with dogs as well as horses. More than that, when we look at how the rope handling can be translated to dogs, the shift in perspective may help us to be better horse trainers. So we invited Suzanne Kernek to join us. Suzanne is a horse owner and a professional dog trainer. She’s a regular at my Half Moon Bay CA clinics. I always enjoy our evening conversations where we talk the connections that Suzanne has found between the work that I teach and the dog training that is her everyday life. I have wanted to have her on the podcast for a very long time. We started just as Suzanne had settled ten puppies down for their nap. It speaks well of her management techniques that we were able to talk for over an hour and a half without interruption. We covered many topics beginning with the new Stay at Home clinics, and then we shifted to the topic of rope handling.