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Equiosity is the podcast about all things equine with a special emphasis on the horse-human bond.

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Equiosity is the podcast about all things equine with a special emphasis on the horse-human bond.

    Episode 277 In Conversation Pt 2 Rope Handling And Reversibility

    Episode 277 In Conversation Pt 2 Rope Handling And Reversibility

    Toward the end of March Dominique and I met for an afternoon’s conversation which I’ve divided up into three episodes. Last week we talked about puzzle solving. This week rope handling is in the spotlight. Dominique is going through my on-line rope handling course. She’s just reached a section which describes what it means to turn a lead rope on and off. This is involves what can seem like a very fussy rope handling skill but the horses have shown us this use of the lead makes a difference to them. That’s especially true when you’re working with nervous horses.

    This detail emerged through the in-person clinics. We were looking for differences that made a difference and helped horses to settle. That’s when I spotted this little turn of the hand that I was doing when I shifted from an active use of the lead to a more passive use during an at ease version of grown-ups. The lead signaled to the horse that he didn’t need to pay close attention or try to offer behavior. The lead was switched off which meant he could switch off as well.

    Once we spotted this simple turn of the hand that turned leads on and off, we could test it with A/B reversals. What happens when we use this signal? How does the horse respond when it is not used? The horses all told us they preferred the clarity that activating and deactivating the lead provided.

    Okay the horses liked it. The handlers didn’t. That’s because this simple turn of the hand was anything but. It’s only simple once you have the pattern in your hands. Otherwise, it can become a head spinning puzzle that could easily put someone completely off rope handling - especially since turning a lead on is a first step in whatever you are about to ask.

    I’m not going to try to teach you via this podcast how to turn a lead on and off. What we are going to talk about is reversibility because that’s the teaching strategy that you’ll use to learn this finger twisting puzzle.

    • 53 min
    Episode 276 In Conversation Pt 1 Puzzle Solving

    Episode 276 In Conversation Pt 1 Puzzle Solving

    Toward the end of March Dominique and I met for an afternoon’s conversation. I’ve divided up into three episodes. In part 1 we talk about puzzles. So much of training success revolves around a handler’s ability to set puzzles which engage the learner. You want to make the puzzles easy to start out with to build the learner’s confidence that this is a puzzle he can solve. Then you gradually add elements so the training progresses.

    In this episode we talk about treasure hunts and why some people grow up loving puzzles and others want nothing to do with them. We explore strategies for developing both eager, confident puzzle setters and eager, confident puzzle solvers.

    Dominique talks about how she is realizing that many of the strategies that she uses to teach her horses she’s also using on herself. She shares a story about back chaining which I think will help many people understand the difference between back chaining and forward chaining.

    We begin a discussion of rope handling which will continue into Part 2 of the conversation.

    • 31 min
    Episode 275 Svenja Sawinski Teaching Relaxation Pt 4 Superstar Stillness

    Episode 275 Svenja Sawinski Teaching Relaxation Pt 4 Superstar Stillness

    This is Part 4 of a 4 part conversation with Svenja Sawinski. Svenja has a horse who has been giving her a master class in teaching stillness and relaxation.

    In Part 1, Svenja introduced us to Daryan her Arab barb cross. When Svenja began with a very young Daryan, she was still using traditional, pressure-based training methods. That worked fine with her older horse because he would always back down from escalating pressure. But not Daryan. In Part 1 Svenja described her discovery that you could teach a horse to stand still using clicker training. For both Daryan and Svenja that was a transforming experience.

    In Part 2 Svenja shared how she taught Daryan not just to stand still, but to settle into relaxation. We ended with stillness becoming a default behavior.

    In part 3 Svenja expanded on the usefulness of default behaviors. She described how she used Daryan’s standing in stillness to clarify cues for him. Instead of guessing what she wanted or trying to throw behaviors at her in the hope that something would work, the default of stillness gave him the clarity he needed to avoid frustration. I’m sure Svenja’s description of the process made many of you sit up and take notice. It is a very useful strategy. You were probably hitting the replay button so you could listen again to her description.


    Part 4 is packed with moments like that where you will want to hit the replay button to listen again. We’ll be covering a lot of ground - who knew that there was so much to be said about standing still!

    So enjoy!

    • 51 min
    Episode 274 Svenja Sawinski Teaching Relaxation Pt 3 Clarifying Cues

    Episode 274 Svenja Sawinski Teaching Relaxation Pt 3 Clarifying Cues

    This is Part 3 of a 4 part conversation with Svenja Sawinski. Svenja’s horse, Daryan, has been giving her a master class in teaching stillness and relaxation.

    In Part 1, Svenja introduced us to Daryan her Arab barb cross. She described the early steps she used to teach Daryan to stand still.

    That was just the beginning. Daryan was a challenging horse to work with. He needed more than foundation level standing still. In Part 2 Svenja shared how she taught Daryan how to settle and relax into stillness. We ended with stillness becoming a default behavior.

    In part 3 Svenja expands this to show you how you can use default behaviors to clarify your cues and further reduce frustration in your learners.

    We’ll begin with a question Dominique asked at the end of part 2 about how does a horse know if he’s supposed to default into stillness or try to offer behaviors in an attempt to get you to click?

    • 36 min
    Episode 273 Svenja Sawinski Teaching Relaxation Pt 2 - Devloping Duration

    Episode 273 Svenja Sawinski Teaching Relaxation Pt 2 - Devloping Duration

    This is Part 2 of a 4 part conversation with Svenja Sawinski. If you are a regular listener to the podcast, you know Dominique and I talk frequently about topics that come from the coaching sessions that are part of my on-line clinics. That’s very much what led to this series with Svenja.

    Svenja is one of the regular attendees at these coaching sessions. Last fall we were looking at some video Svenja had sent in in which she was doing some body work with her horse Daryan. Dominique was fascinated by how long Daryan could go between clicks while remaining seemingly very settled and relaxed. He wasn’t anxiously searching for "what is it that you want me to do?". This sparked a long discussion over whether or not to use a marker signal during body work sessions.

    In this four part series Svenja is describing the process she used to very systematically teach Daryan how to do more than stand still. She taught him to stand in deep relaxation.

    Last week I had Svenja introduce Daryan. I wanted you to understand that he did not start out as a straight forward, easy-going horse. Daryan is very much the kind of horse that can so easily frustrate and overwhelm a handler. In other words, he’s a very good teacher. And Svenja has been a very good student, so together they have a lot to share. When you’re working with an animal that is as large and powerful as a horse being able to ask for calm and get it reliably is a huge piece of the training puzzle.

    Last week we ended with how Svenja began to expand the duration of standing in stillness to "Grand Prix level" waiting. We all know you can be waiting but not be relaxed. Think about how anxious you can get when you’re late for work and you’re stuck in traffic. You're sitting behind the steering wheel, but you're looking at your watch every few seconds. You’re anything but relaxed.

    That’s not Daryan's form of stillness. He knows how to settle and deeply relax. In this episode Svenja describes the systematic teaching process that taught him how to settle and relax.

    • 56 min
    Episode 272 Svenja Sawinski Teaching Relaxation Pt 1 Finding Stillness

    Episode 272 Svenja Sawinski Teaching Relaxation Pt 1 Finding Stillness

    We all know there are many forms of standing still. There’s standing at full attention like a soldier on parade. There’s standing at ease watching the world drift by. There’s standing still ready to spring into action like a sprinter at the starting line.

    Often people get to four on the floor with their animals and stop at that point. As long as the feet are still, they consider they have taught stillness. But what happens if that horse or that dog is quivering with expectation, trying to figure out what to do to get you to click? You may have four on the floor, but you’re a long way from a relaxed learner.

    We’re starting a four part series in which we explore standing not just with four on the floor, but standing in stillness so your learner is truly relaxed. This doesn’t happen by chance. It is the result of a systematic training process. Svenja Sawinski is our guide in this series as she shares what her Arab/barb cross has been teaching her about stillness.

    In this episode Svenja introduces us to Daryan and explains why getting to this “Grand Prix” level of relaxation was so important for this horse. She shares her early attempts at teaching stillness, and the lesson that finally made a difference for Daryan.

    • 56 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
60 Ratings

60 Ratings

Madisonanbell ,

100% Progress In my mindset and my horses.

I have been listening to this podcast for awhile now. I have been on the clicker training journey for about a year and a half. Listening to this podcast was a lot to take in so at one point I thought I could use a refresh so from episode 80 back to the beginning, I have restarted and am understanding concepts. I was able to use the knowledge I have relearned and had a wonderful time with my horses. I am now so proud of everything I am capturing and able to put into practical. I also bought Alex’s revised book and can’t move past the foundation lessons yet because I want to make it solid.

IsabeauZS ,

Great place to start!

If you are interested in clicker training horses, but short on time, then this podcast is a good place to get info. Listen while mucking stalls, picking fields or even on lunch breaks from your desk job!!

SnickersOldMan ,

Gems for the positive trainer

Alex and Dominique have created a marvelous podcast on the power of positive training. While they call it Equiosity, the questions they explore are important to training any species in a positive way. The importance of choice can’t be over emphasized. How we use our training tools (food delivery, mats) has wide implications. There are bonus articles for members. Listen and enjoy!

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