On this week’s episode, I sit down with Paul Stenson. This is an emotionally charged episode, 15 minutes in I want to reach across the table and hug him. As Paul sit across from me I soon find out that behind the Charleville lodge Paul and the white moose café Paul, is a man who has struggled for a very long time, struggled with his shame of being gay, struggled with adoption and struggled with alcohol. Paul talks to me about these struggles and how with the help of a counselor he channeled these struggles into positives and into a hugely successful business with his solely owned white moose cafés. We talk about the controversy and the PR stunts that have resulted in him and never having to pay a penny for advertising. The Irish Times once described Paul as being the charmless proprietor of the publicity-hungry Charleville lodge but Paul is utterly charming simply someone who has coined the art of not giving a shit. Paul thank you for sitting down with me and letting us get to know you that bit better See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.