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“In 2022, it shouldn’t be such a mystery about why family annihilators do what they do. This podcast, while interesting, misses a lot of context as it defaults to List being “out of step with the times” or with his coworkers, rather than looking at how he was a coercive controller who found the solution many like him do - kill the people he couldn’t control who he (and sadly, in a way, this podcast) blame. Put aside the misogynist tropes about his wife and mother, and the superficial view of him being “too conservative” for the times or whatever you want to call it. There are plenty of examples even nowadays of men who later killed their wives or families after pretending to go to a job they’d lost - so List doing it is not an anomaly or sign of a “different time.” Even though they talk to a psychiatrist (who could’ve mentioned how important image is for a coercive controller, which would explain the big house in the nice neighborhood etc, but didn’t), they miss the very important context behind this whole case, which - except for him getting away with it for so long - is not very different from a lot of other family annihilator cases. And enough if accepting his self-serving memoir as credible. This is what family annihilators do - they revise history to make themselves as sympathetic as possible. Journalists should know better than to take it at face value, and the occasional nod to the fact that it’s his point of view doesn’t make up for using it as fact. If people started understanding corrcive cintrol and the psychology behind family annihilation better, maybe it wouldn’t be such a head-scratcher every time it happened (and maybe we could also move away from the misogynistic wife and mother-blaming that we constantly hear. And walking it back half a step by speculating on whether it’s fair, then deciding it may be a little bit doesn’t count). They have a lot of good info, but it’s hard to listen given all the missteps. And as a woman who worked for daily newspapers for nearly 40 years, listening to the smug sexist male reporter who covered the case originally makes me glad once again I’m out of the newsroom.”
MaureenM47 via Apple Podcasts ·
United States of America ·
06/03/22
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