In conversation with Jessica Gagen-Miss England & Top 8 Miss World Finalist. A whole year after we recorded our first chat where we discussed Jess' STEM interest & journey, I catch up with Jess after the Miss World finals that took place in India this year. ⌚️TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Intro 01:04 - Who is Jessica Gagen? 02:35 - Connections & Friendships 03:22 - Did you feel intimidated? 06:01 - Fitting in 08:13 - The interview behind closed doors 11:01 - The Finals 13:21- Top 8 14:50 - Question time 16:33 - Back to reality 17:23 - Mauritius: First press trip 22:20 - Women critical of each other 28:27 - Chapter 30 32:45 - Comparison is the thief of joy 35:20 - Let your path to success be malleable 38:03 - Home is your people 44:43 - Be present 🔗 CONNECT WITH ME 🎙Spotify ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5P3BPjurTTMKSRAwFLAPpz?si=8b835a5f86734ba⁠1 📲 Apple Podcast ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/figuring-out/id1677026977⁠ 🌍Instagram ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jemma.permalloo/ ♪ TikTok ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@jemmapermalloo 📥 Email: [email protected] 🔗 CONNECT WITH JESSICA https://www.instagram.com/jessicaashley_/ 🔗 🎥 Ali Abdaal's PTYA (Part-time Youtuber Academy) course https://academy.aliabdaal.com/a/2147573862/AVMHdKz4 👥🎙 ABOUT THE PODCAST They say age is just a number and yet growing older for this generation of millennials feels particularly daunting. For some reasons, navigating especially our 20s to 30s comes with expectations that we should have it all figured out, to the at times, scary realisation that we don't! In this podcast, Jemma meets guests from different backgrounds, professional and personal experiences in the quest of learning something new and perhaps seek to revalidate that no person's journey is the same. By sharing those conversations, she hopes to impart one or two things.