Most founders on First Principles—The Ken's fortnightly leadership podcast—have also been CEOs. And one of the questions we often ask them is: when to make way for someone else as a CEO? If leadership is a ladder, we often make the mistake of thinking that the CEO title sits at the apex.  Instead, leadership is a journey. And the best founders know that to create organisations that outlast them, the CEO title is but one milestone in their journey. The road doesn't end there. Varun Dua, our guest for this episode, co-founded Acko—a digital-first insurer most recently valued at over $1.4 billion. He was also Acko's CEO before hiring a seasoned insurance industry leader to take over that role. That's not the only thing different about Varun.  He freely admits that as a graduate, he was super lazy and had neither a plan for his life nor any interest in being an entrepreneur. His dream at one point was to get hired by eBay or Cleartrip. Thankfully for him, neither of the companies hired him. So, he ended up starting one company, which morphed into another firm, which morphed into Acko. Along the way, he went from super lazy to super driven. In today's episode, Varun reflects on the choices he made in his career and life and talks about how he's preparing for the ones that still lie ahead.  This is Episode 22 of First Principles with Varun Dua. The Ken is India's first subscriber-only business journalism platform. Check out our deeply reported long-form stories, insightful newsletters, original podcasts and much more here: https://the-ken.com/?utm_source=website&utm_medium=podcasts&utm_campaign=podcast_ep