We are joined by Kaylie Smith, author of Phantasma, today and we are so excited!  Kaylie is genuinely the sweetest person, and she shared so much amazing info with us today about the trad publishing industry and how Phantasma came to be!  If you haven't read this book yet, do it!! It is seriously incredible and we need more people to gush over our love of Blackwell with us!  How to show your support: Like and subscribe to Flippin' Through Fiction on any podcast platform, share an episode with a friend if you enjoyed it, or just send us a message so we can get to know you beautiful people Where to find us: Spotify, Apple, Castbox, anywhere you get your podcasts Follow us @flippinthroughfiction on IG (you can find us both here, but this is Amanda's primary communication platform) You can find Allisha @lady_perfictionist on IG being a hype girl, arc reviewer, street team member, and just generally supporting ALL the authors!