Predatory lending and parasitic governance are propelling our society into a condition of extreme instability. In the wake of the initial economic fallout from the coronavirus pandemic, we are already seeing local governments authorize austerity measures, like increased policing and incarceration to fill revenue gaps. Coupled with the dramatically heightened police presence in our communities at this moment, we find ourselves standing at the precipice of an even more militarized, surveilled, and technocratic world. To resist the conjuring of this hostile future, we need to engage in some serious social visioning. This week, we are joined by Jackie Wang to discuss the function of the carceral state amidst late-stage capitalism and the pervasiveness of the debt economy. Jackie calls us to disrupt what we’ve normalized, break state-sanctioned cycles of harm, and reallocate our collective resources in the name of taking care of our communities. Jackie Wang is a black studies scholar, poet, multimedia artist, and Assistant Professor of Culture and Media at the New School’s Eugene Lang College. She received her PhD in African and African American Studies at Harvard University and was recently a fellow at the Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study. She is the author of Carceral Capitalism. Music by Jackie Wang. Visit our website at forthewild.world for the full episode description, references, and action points.