In this episode, we catch up with Charl van der Walt (@charlvdwalt), Head Of Security Research at Orange Cyberdefense and one of the original founders of SensePost. We talk through the origins of how SensePost got started, what it was like to build a business over 20 plus years and eventually sell and become part of a much larger company. Charl also spoke about a personal topic he is driving around gettings organisations to think differently in their approach to gender diversity.