Pepita Hesselberth is Assistant Professor of Film, Literary Studies, and Digital Culture at Leiden University. Joost de Bloois is Assistant Professor in the departments of  Cultural Analysis and Comparative Literature at the University of  Amsterdam. In this episode we discuss their co-edited book The Politics of Withdrawal.  Book link: https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781786616340/Politics-of-Withdrawal-Media-Arts-Theory ---   Become part of the Hermitix community:   Hermitix Twitter - https://twitter.com/Hermitixpodcast  Support Hermitix:   Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/hermitix  Donations: - https://www.paypal.me/hermitixpod  Hermitix Merchandise - http://teespring.com/stores/hermitix-2  Bitcoin Donation Address: 3LAGEKBXEuE2pgc4oubExGTWtrKPuXDDLK   Ethereum Donation Address: 0x31e2a4a31B8563B8d238eC086daE9B75a00D9E74