On last week’s episode, Paul interviewed Matthew about the 10 years he and his family spent in the Advanced Training Institute; a cult started by self-proclaimed prophet, Bill Gothard. This week, the conversation continues as Matthew describes leaving the isolated world of the cult and adjusting to the “real world” for the first time. What excited him? What scared him? And most importantly, how did he grow? Join Our Family Support His and His on Patreon and get monthly bonus episodes, weekly extended episodes, and more! More info: https://www.patreon.com/hisandhis