Haji Mohamed Dawjee has written a fantastic second essay collection, Here's The Thing, as a follow-up on her well-received first collection, Sorry, Not Sorry. I invited her to chat to me about her latest book. It spans many themes, from parenting to mental health, cancel culture and online mob attacks, complex relationships with our parents, suicidality, and much more. I have written a review of the latest book  ( https://www.timeslive.co.za/sunday-times-daily/opinion-and-analysis/2022-04-25-book-review-heres-the-thing-living-is-bloody-hard-lets-be-honest/ ) and encourage you to buy, and read it. Meanwhile, enjoy this podcast and make books and reading sexy!