On this episode we hear from Irene. The founder of a leadership development called Light Path Leadership based in Saigon, after a career in leadership development across four continents. And she has become known for women in leadership and even wrote a book about the stories of Vietnamese women in 2016. Going back to her origin story she is Austrian and because she loves the unknown, she decided to study sinology at university. Which then took her to China in the early 2000s and made her career in adult education, at a time when executive coaching was unknown in China. When she came to Vietnam and started working with women, she was approached to design a leadership program for women in hospitality, which they called HER TURN. In this program one important thing that she introduced was including sponsors, both male and female, for the program participants, because they will be the ones who have the power to advance your career.