Integrating Chinese Medicine Elizabeth Cullen and Georgia Payten

After a year hiatus, Elizabeth and Georgia have welcomed the arrival of their daughters and whilst undergoing the process of Matrescence both hosts had a break from the studio. Your hosts are now back on the microphones to discuss what they have learnt over the past 12 months.
In this episode your hosts share insight into the reality of their own Postpartum experiences, the intentions they had as TCM Practitioners heading into the Fourth Trimester and Postpartum. They discuss the meaning of ‘sitting the month’ and its importance from a TCM perspective and delve into the expectations they had on themselves with their knowledge as TCM Practitioners.They discuss what worked well for them, and what didn’t by giving recommendations on practical ways to prepare for the first forty days and Postpartum by providing insight into TCM principles and how to integrate these into a Western setting for Postpartum so that listeners can practice these confidently at home.
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Mental Health Support:
PANDA
National Helpline number: 1300 726 306
COPE
Resources discussed in this episode:
Why you should reconsider Placenta Encapsulation
Postpartum Chinese Herbal Medicine and Chicken Soup
The Dinner Ladies delivered meals
Spectra S1+ Hospital Grade Breast Pump
Silverettes
Disposable Postpartum Underwear 
Period Porridge recipe
Peri Bottle
What is the process of Matresence?
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For our first episode for 2023, Georgia and Elizabeth share their insight into what actually is the Fourth Trimester from a Traditional Chinese Medicine perspective. Also known as Zuo Yue Zi, the Fourth Trimester is the first forty days post giving birth. Your hosts delve into what this confinement period looks like culturally in China and in other traditions around the world and how this practice can be implemented into your postpartum period realistically in the Western world.
After discussing the five insights to consider implementing into the first forty days, Elizabeth and Georgia discuss how Acupuncture, Mother Warming treatment and Chinese Dietary Therapy are key elements of support in the fourth trimester. They discuss Placenta Encapsulation and why to reconsider this practice, building your support network before Baby arrives as well as setting expectations of how you would like the first forty days to be post birth.
Your hosts then dive into how an integrative model of care in the fourth trimester benefits the new mother in addition to where to seek support for your mental health. 
Resources discussed in this episode - 
The Golden Month by Jenny Allison 
https://www.chinabooks.com.au/search.cfm?UR=43703&search_stage=details&records_to_display=50&this_book_number=19
The First Forty Days by Heng Ou 
https://motherbees.com/pages/book-the-first-forty-days
The Dao Does journal post - TCM Postpartum Broth
https://thedaohealth.com.au/the-dao-does-postpartum-tcm-broth/
The Dao Does journal post - Placenta Encapsulation
https://thedaohealth.com.au/why-you-should-reconsider-placenta-encapsulation/
Pig Trotter Soup recipe for milk supply
https://whitepineinstitute.org/chinese-herbs-for-lactation/
PANDA Postnatal support https://panda.org.au/

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During this conversation, Dr Peric discusses PCOS diagnosis and Fertility. She explains the criteria for accurately diagnosing PCOS, how it can be misdiagnosed as well as emphasising the importance of regular cycles not only for menstrual health and fertility but also general health. From there, Dr Peric talks about her research into MTHFR gene mutation and her findings associated with miscarriage. She also delves into the diagnosis of recurrent miscarriage, and tests that she recommends to her patients who have experienced recurrent miscarriage. To finish off, Dr Peric gives advice to women and couples on their fertility journey.
Dr Helen Peric is a reproductive specialist and gynaecologist from City Fertility. Dr Peric completed her medicine degree at Sydney University, and later undertook specialist training in obstetrics and gynaecology at Westmead Hospital as well as Royal Prince Alfred Hospital in Sydney. This led her to an interest in infertility and reproductive medicine and sub-specialty training at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital and Genea.
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During this interview, Elizabeth and Georgia delve into all facets of pregnancy and birth with Midwife Em. They begin the conversation from the first moment a woman and her partner find out she is pregnant, and the next steps that ensue as she begins her pregnancy journey. Em discusses care provider options for pregnancy, she explains tests and scans that are offered throughout each trimester, as well as empowering the conversation about what tests and scans are optional and required. During this conversation Em talks about ‘colostrum expressing’ and the reasons why a woman shouldn’t be worried if she isn’t able to collect any, she explores ideas around preparation for labour and informs us about labour induction options. 
Midwife Em is an advocate for the postpartum period, and emphasises the importance of ensuring a new mother supports not only her new baby's health but also her own physical, mental and emotional wellbeing.
Midwife Em is a registered midwife and has worked across multiple different hospitals, including two major tertiary level hospitals, predominantly in a postnatal setting caring for women and families. She is the host of her own podcast, “Welcome to the Womb”, which is an educational platform for women and families wanting to know more about pregnancy, birth, babies and the postpartum.

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Instagram @midwife_em and @welcometo.thewomb
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During this interview, Elizabeth and Georgia discuss with Mike current research and clinical trials being completed in the Traditional Chinese Medicine and Acupuncture realm. Mike explains why Acupuncture dosage is important for therapeutic benefits especially for Endometriosis and pain conditions, he discusses his current research and clinical trial into Chinese Herbal Medicines for Endometriosis pain management as well as delving into emerging research into the benefits of CBD oil for symptom management of Endometriosis. He also explains and compares the different mechanisms of both CBD and THC and explains why the research into both of these counterparts are important and beneficial for pain management.
Mike unpacks promising research into the benefits of Acupuncture and discusses what he hopes to see for the future of Traditional Chinese Medicine and Acupuncture in Australia.
Dr Mike Armour is currently a senior research fellow in reproductive health at NICM Health Research Institute, Western Sydney University. Dr Mike Armour's passion is in Women's Health and he has extensive experience in research specifically pain conditions including Endometriosis and Dysmennorrhea. Dr Mike is heavily involved in research and treatment of Endometriosis and he was the invited complementary medicine expert on the Endometriosis expert working group (EEWG) for the Royal Australia and New Zealand College of Gynaecologists ( RANZCOG ).
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Elizabeth and Georgia chat with Jo and Tamara, who share the best time to have a pelvic floor check up when family planning and when in pregnancy when the pelvic floor should be checked. Following pregnancy, we unpack when the pelvic floor should be assessed, is this only for vaginal births and why it is important to have clearance before returning to exercise. Tamara and Jo share what the Born Ready course is, why they created the course and what purpose it has to prepare women and their birth partner's for labour. We discussing positioning in the labour, the link between fear and pain and why patients possibly have improved birth outcomes when feeling empowered through education. 
Elizabeth and Georgia learn from Jo Murdoch and Tamara Woods, Pelvic Health and Musculoskeletal physiotherapists, Directors of The Physiotherapy Clinic & founders of Born Ready - A birth course focusing on empowering women with in depth knowledge about birth and how to prepare their bodies for birth. In this episode the Pelvic Health Physiotherapists explain the connection of Women's Health and Pelvic Floor health and what a patient can expect from their first Women's Health internal physiotherapy appointment.
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