Jensen and Holes: Winter Distraction with Phoebe Judge from Criminal
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This week's Winter Distraction features one of the original true crime podcasters, Phoebe Judge from the Criminal podcast. Paul, Billy and Phoebe discuss some of Criminal's most popular episodes--including one with links to the world of Harry Potter. And Phoebe talks about how the true crime podcast landscape has changed and what it takes to make a great episode. 
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