Doussouba Konaté (@DoussoubaKonate) is the Global Program Officer and Moussa Kondo (@Kondoba) is the Country director of Mali for the Accountability Lab (@AccountLab). The two outline how they both became interested in anti-corruption and accountability in Mali. They outline how the accountability lab applies a human-centric approach in the fight against corruption, one of the most famous example is the Integrity Icon project that is centered around the idea of “naming and faming honest government officials”. Doussouba also describes the Civic Action Team and how the Accountability Lab tackles fake news about COVID-19 by collecting fake news and using popular voices to provide factual information. The interview outlines how Accountability Lab tries to follow the disbursement of funds to relieve the COVID-19 pandemic. The two outline a briefly outline the link between the political situation in Mali and corruption. The interview also outlines why now is the time to think deeper about the recurring challenges in Mali, which reasons for hope exist and what the top-priorities are for anti-corruption measures in Mali. References: Integrity Icon project: https://integrityicon.org/ Civic Action Team: https://accountabilitylab.org/civicactionteams/