While it is more common to hear someone say that they are "spiritual but not religious," in their opposition to organized religion, there has also been an increased focus on religious ritual or spiritual discipline to help us have a more intentional life and a more intimate relationship with God. Ultimately, this is looking to meet God through external forms to create internal transformation. Does this work? If not, why not and what else are we to do? This talk will look at this topic through the lens of King Saul's life as recorded in the biblical book, 1 Samuel, and draw lessons from his "religious but not spiritual" life. The Copyright for all material on the podcast is held by L'Abri Fellowship. We ask that you respect this by not publishing the material in full or in part in any format or post it on a website without seeking prior permission from L'Abri Fellowship. Also, note that not all views expressed in the lectures or in the discussion time necessarily represent the views of L'Abri Fellowship. © Canadian L'Abri 2020