I start this episode with a nod to the Late Trevor Keeling of whom I interviewed in Episode three. I also recap the progress I've made towards the Marathon, including a town to town half marathon. And cover the changes the London Marathon have done for the slower runners this year.

In this episode we are lucky to speak to an athlete who has completed 25 marathons, including London Numerous times. Trevor Keeling has even won a marathon. We Talked about his career, running experiences and a few recommendations for first timers like me.