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Love is the Message: Music, Dance & Counterculture is a new show from Tim Lawrence and Jeremy Gilbert, both of them authors, academics, DJs and dance party organisers.

Tune in, Turn on and Get Down to in-depth discussion of the sonic, social and political legacies of radical movements from the 1960s to today. Starting with David Mancuso's NYC Loft parties, we’ll explore the countercultural sounds, scenes and ideas of the late 20th and early 21st centuries.

”There’s one big party going on all the time. Sometimes we get to tune into it.” The rest of the time there’s Love Is The Message.

Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture Love is the Message podcast

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    • 4.9 • 38 Ratings

Love is the Message: Music, Dance & Counterculture is a new show from Tim Lawrence and Jeremy Gilbert, both of them authors, academics, DJs and dance party organisers.

Tune in, Turn on and Get Down to in-depth discussion of the sonic, social and political legacies of radical movements from the 1960s to today. Starting with David Mancuso's NYC Loft parties, we’ll explore the countercultural sounds, scenes and ideas of the late 20th and early 21st centuries.

”There’s one big party going on all the time. Sometimes we get to tune into it.” The rest of the time there’s Love Is The Message.

    Punk pt.2

    Punk pt.2

    In this episode we continue our trio of episodes on Punk by examining some crucial mid-70s proto-Punk antecedents. Via the lean funkiness of Dr Feelgood Jeremy and Tim explore the interesting British formation of pub rock, with its R’n’B roots and distinct danceability. This leads to a discussion on the slipperiness of Rock’n’Roll as a term and its tensions with ‘rock’ proper. We also hear an early influence on Post-Punk and meet the influential Stiff Records at its foundation. In the second half of the show we make a second encounter on the show with the Ramones, and ask: what were they really up to? Authenticity, performance, historiography and hagiography all come under the microscope as we lead to the first definitively British Punk record: New Rose by The Damned.Join us next time for Blondie and the Sex Pistols.Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.



    Tracklist:Dr Feelgood - She Does it RightDr Feelgood - Keep it Outta SightNick Lowe - So It GoesThe Ramones - Blitzkrieg BopThe Saints - (I’m) StrandedThe Damned - New Rose

    • 57 min
    LITM Extra - What We're Listening To, March '24 [excerpt]

    LITM Extra - What We're Listening To, March '24 [excerpt]

    This is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear the whole thing and a huge number of other conversations, head to Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.

    In this patrons episode Jem and Tim once again share what’s been on their turntables recently. We hear two tracks - one contemporary and one not - from the UK Asian Underground, along with a consideration of the cosmopolitan aesthetic of artists like Bally Sagoo and Nitin Sawhney. Tim reflects on trips to the WOMAD festival and digs into trip hop while Jem shares a powerful Qawwali cut. Elsewhere we hear Swedish afrobeat, extremely psychedelic roots reggae, free love, a compilation for Gaza, Messages from the Stars and more…





    Tracklist:
    Nitin Sawhney - Charu Keshi RainNora Dean - Angie La LaBally Sagoo - NoorieMorelo - Promise (from ‘For Gaza’ comp by Planet Turbo Records)The RAH Band - Messages from the StarsOrgōne - StrikeNusrat Fateh Ali Khan - Shamas-Ud-Doha, Badar-Ud-DojaOlumo Soundz - Sunday JumpJune Jazzin - Shine Your Brightest Light



    Books:

    Sanjay Sharma, John Hutnyk, Ashwani Sharma (Eds) - Dis-Orienting Rhythms: The Politics of the New Asian Dance Music 

    • 8 min
    New York City 1977: Welcome to Series 6. Punk pt.1

    New York City 1977: Welcome to Series 6. Punk pt.1

    Welcome to Series 6 of Love is the Message! We hope you enjoyed the series of conversations with writers and academics that comprised Series 5, but now we are returning to our usual format to examine a watershed year: 1977. 



    In this first episode we are unpacking Punk. What is it? A musical style, a subgenre of rock, a fashion sensibility, an attitude, a structure of feeling? In the first of three shows on Punk, Jeremy and Tim unfurl a general genealogy of the term as we build towards the release of Anarchy in the UK in two episodes’ time. They discuss where the term came from and how it was codified; the importance punk placed on realness and spontaneity; and contrast Punk’s nostalgic and avant garde modes. 



    Tim and Jeremy make reference to three bands not immediately thought of as Punk - The Seeds, The MC5 and The Stooges - to uncover what musical work was taking place in the late 60s and early 70s that could be viewed as proto-punk, and use these bands to show the problems of rock historiography in recounting the history of Punk. And, this being LITM, we of course spend some time untangling the Punk vs Disco dichotomy. 



    We hope you’ll join us as we continue our long march through the 1970s and beyond!

    Become a patron at patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.



    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.



    Tracklist:
    The Seeds - Pushin’ Too Hard
    The MC5 - Kick Out the Jams
    The Stooges - Funhouse

    • 56 min
    LITM Extra - Killer Queens: Glam pt.3 [excerpt]

    LITM Extra - Killer Queens: Glam pt.3 [excerpt]

    This is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear the whole thing and a lot more besides, head to Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.



    In this patrons’ episode we conclude our trio of episodes on Glam Rock.



    Tim and Jeremy pick up where they left off with a walk on the wild side. This leads to a discussion of the relationship between Lou Reed, Bowie and Iggy Pop in the early 70s. They discuss the undisputed glam anthem Cum on Feel the Noize from Birmingham’s finest Slade, replete with its football terrace chant and fist-pumping energy. And on the mellower side, explore the idea of glam as torch song, with entries from international treasure Elton John and a return to the show for Roxy Music.



    Jeremy and Tim conclude the episode with an acceptance of the might of Queen and a brief scintilla of postmodernism - much more of that to follow.



    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.



    Tracklist:

    Lou Reed - Walk on the Wild Side

    David Bowie - Moonage Daydream

    Slade - Cum On Feel The Noize

    Suzi Quatro - Glycerine Queen

    Elton John - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road

    Roxy Music - In Every Dream Home a Heartache

    Queen - Killer Queen

    • 3 min
    LITM Extra - Screwed-Up Eyes and Screwed-Down Hairdo: Glam pt.2 [excerpt]

    LITM Extra - Screwed-Up Eyes and Screwed-Down Hairdo: Glam pt.2 [excerpt]

    This is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear the whole show, and a whole lot more besides, head to Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod to sign up.



    In this patrons’ episode we move into the second of three episodes on Glam. The third part of this trilogy will be dropping in your feed sooner than our normal schedule so hold tight for that.


    Tim and Jeremy discuss that big beast of British rock, Roxy Music. They consider Brian Ferry’s cultivation of a White British vocal style, the effects of art college on this and so many other contemporaneous UK bands, Ferry’s eventual styling as ‘Frank Sinatra in quotation marks’, and the emergence from within Roxy of one of the most influential producers of the Twentieth Century - Brian Eno.


    Also in the episode the guys go deep on Ziggy Stardust and unpack the desire of so many 70s musicians to just be taken seriously. Plus, the shadow of Dylan, Cornelius Cardew, and more Marc Bolan. 

    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.



    Tracklist:

    Roxy Music - Re-Make/Re-Model

    Roxy Music - Virginia Plain

    David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust

    T.Rex - Children Of The Revolution

    • 5 min
    'Divine Decadence Darling!': The 70s with Simon Reynolds

    'Divine Decadence Darling!': The 70s with Simon Reynolds

    In this episode Jeremy and Tim are joined by writer, historian, and friend of the show Simon Reynolds to discuss British musical trends of the 1970s and his life as a music journalist. Simon is arguably the most important music critic writing today, having penned seminal books on post-punk, electronic dance music, feminist rock and much more. In this interview he mostly talks about his most recent book, ‘Shock and Awe: Glam Rock and Its Legacy, from the Seventies to the Twenty-First Century’, sharing stories from his childhood interest in the decadent world of Glam.



    The three discuss how so many artists came to aestheticise a rejection of suburbia, the purply gauze of Top of the Pops, and thinking the Situationists were a band. They unpick how Punk is imagined and historicised versus how it was experienced, how Simon came to reappraise the 60s against a hostile critical culture, and consider the role of the music press historically and today.



    For patrons, our extended edition also includes a discussion around Simon’s 2011 book ‘Retromania: Pop Culture’s Addiction to its Own Past’. Tim, Jeremy and Simon recount the particular conjuncture from which the book arose, tease out its key theses, and apply those to contemporary music culture.



    Simon Reynolds is the author of ‘Blissed Out: The Raptures of Rock’, ‘The Sex Revolts: Gender, Rebellion and Rock 'N' Roll’ with Joy Press, ‘Energy Flash: A Journey Through Rave Music and Dance Culture’, ‘Rip It Up and Start Again: Postpunk 1978–1984’, ‘Bring The Noise: 20 Years of Writing About Hip Rock and Hip-Hop’, ‘Retromania: Pop Culture's Addiction to Its Own Past’ and ‘Shock and Awe: Glam Rock and Its Legacy, from the Seventies to the Twenty-First Century’. His next book, ‘Futuromania: Electronic Dreams from Moroder to Migos’ is forthcoming.



    Tracklist:
    Scott Joplin - The Entertainer
    Ian Dury & the Blockheads - Plaistow Patricia
    The Rezillos - Top Of The Pops
    The Specials - Ghost Town

    Led Zeppelin - Whole Lotta Love

    • 55 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
38 Ratings

38 Ratings

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This is an outrageously good podcast

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Best New Podcast of 2021

This is a thoughtful, authoritative, and widescreen look at the pulsing undercurrent between countercultural production and political economy in the mid-twentieth century. For anyone interested in music as a space of inquiry for progressive politics, or anyone interested in the deep and often-overlooked history of these diverse cultural spaces (dancefloors) and their role in shaping our own cultural moment, LOVE IS THE MESSAGE is essential listening.

Tim Lawrence is a tireless historian of NYC dance culture, and the author of several definitive books on the subject. Jeremy Gilbert is an incisive cultural critic and left-wing thinker familiar to anyone with ears for the British left. But they are both DJs and music fiends, and their conversation (while overtly expert at times) is eminently listenable. Turn on, tune in, get down, as they say.

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