Tom and John are joined by Pastor J. Ryan Davidson to talk about the use of the law and the gospel in counseling. J. Ryan Davidson is one of the pastors of Grace Baptist Chapel in Hampton, VA. He is the author of Thinking Through Anxiety (Ichthus, 2017) and Green Pastures: A Primer on the Ordinary Means of Grace (Reformed Baptist Academic Press, 2019). He will be teaching the upcoming course on Pastoral Counseling at Covenant Baptist Theological Seminary in Owensboro, KY on May 28th-31st. You can learn more about the course at cbtseminary.org/counseling. Replaying our show on the Man of God Network, Modern Marrow Men: Conversations on the Law and the Gospel featuring Tom Hicks and John Divito. Modern Marrow Men is a weekly conversation on the Law & the Gospel intended to help church leaders and Christian laypeople rightly divide the Word of truth. Covenant Baptist Theological Seminary is a Confessional Reformed Baptist Seminary providing affordable online theological education to help the Church in its calling to train faithful men. To learn more about CBTS, visit https://CBTSeminary.org.