Seamus Perry and Mark Ford discuss the lives and works of Frank O’Hara and John Ashbery, close friends and leading lights of the New York School, who sought to create an anti-academic, hedonistic poetry, freeing themselves from the puritan American tradition. To listen to series one of Modern-ish Poets and all our other Close Readings series, sign up here: Directly in Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3pJoFPq In other podcast apps: https://lrb.me/closereadings Series one of Modern-ish Poets looks at Philip Larkin, W. H. Auden, Elizabeth Bishop, Thomas Hardy, Stevie Smith, A. E. Housman, Wallace Stevens, Sylvia Plath, Seamus Heaney and Robert Lowell. Further reading on O'Hara and Ashbery in the LRB: C.K. Stead: https://lrb.me/steadashberypod John Bayley: https://lrb.me/bayleyashberypod Stephanie Burt: https://lrb.me/burtashberypod John Kerrigan: https://lrb.me/kerriganashberypod This episode was first published on the LRB Podcast in June 2022. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.