We may be back in Catt's bedroom, but this episode is a dramatic departure from the usual format! In this week's conversation, Catt sits down with our first MALE guest, Karamo Brown. You probably know him from Netflix's Queer Eye - he's the official culture expert, and resident life coach - but in this interview, Karamo reflects on his own life. After taking off his shirt, he and Catt cover a lot of ground -- from Karamo's attempted suicide, to physically abusing his boyfriends, and becoming the first openly gay Black man on MTV's The Real World. Karamo also speaks at length for the first time about the controversy surrounding his recent Sean Spicer comments. The two have some fun as well -- discussing Karamo's current role on Dancing with the Stars, his extensive collection of L.A. Dodgers hats and why he wants to bathe in a tub full of Starburst candy. Also in this episode, Catt gets extremely vulnerable, disclosing a never-before-shared fact about her family.