Note: this is a rerun of a previous episode. Traveling to Taiwan with her mom, Kathy imagines the life she might have lived had her family stayed. Kathy's mom previously appeared on Nancy in the episodes "Hello hello" and "Kathy's Mom is Uncomfortable With All This." — Guo Mama is a volunteer at the Taiwan Tongzhi Hotline Association in Taipei. — Li Te-Yun (Nan Gua) is a singer-songwriter in Taiwan. — Special thanks to Andrew Ryan, a host and producer with Radio Taiwan International. Music in this episode by Jeremy Bloom, Art of Escapism ("Done with Disco"), Uncan ("Unbroken"), and Little Glass Men ("Cloud Launching"). Support our work! Become a Nancy member today at Nancypodcast.org/donate.