Dotun, Andy and Nicky Bandini check in with the biggest stories after another chaotic Champions League week, as various teams do their best to recapture - or redefine - their identity. Juventus show glimpses of their wily former selves under Max Allegri, while Milan’s young swagger has somehow left them on zero points. We also try to come to terms with Barcelona being distinctly ordinary - Benfica made that obvious enough - and wonder if the recent French crowd trouble is indicative of wider issues across Europe. Got a question for us? Find us on socials @footballramble. ***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!***   See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.