What kind of wisdom will people need to capitalize on the positive societal and/or psychological change after the pandemic? Igor and Charles share and discuss responses from 57 of the world's leading behavioral and social scientists, collected as part of the World After Covid project. Each episode, four responses are selected. This time, the conversation covers themes of sympathy and compassion, self-distancing, perspective-taking, and learning from pandemics in the midst of the pandemic. Igor wonders what being empathetic and compassionate even looks like online, and Charles ponders lessons not learned from past global catastrophes. Featuring: Roxane Cohen Silver, Social-Personality Psychologist and Adversity Research Trailblazer Laura Carstensen, Fairleigh S. Dickinson Jr. Professor in Public Policy and Founding Director of the Stanford Center on Longevity Edouard Machery, Distinguished Professor in the Department of History and Philosophy of Science and the Director of the Center for Philosophy of Science at the University of Pittsburgh Anand Menon, Professor of European Politics and Foreign Affairs at King’s College London Links: World After Covid siteIgor Grossmann's homepage — interactive visualizations and analysis on the World After Covid projectHow Life Could Get Better (or Worse) After COVID (berkeley.edu)Words of wisdom: 4 tips from experts on how to endure until the COVID-19 pandemic ends (The Conversation)Roxane Cohen Silver Interview — full interview and transcript on the World After Covid siteLaura Carstensen Interview — full interview and transcript on the World After Covid siteEdouard Machery Interview — full interview and transcript on the World After Covid siteAnand Menon Interview — full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site