This week we talk about two extremes in watchmaking. First, Andy and Felix ponder the theory that 2022 might actually be one of the most unexciting years on record when it comes to watch releases. Secondly, Felix speaks to a man who directly contradicts this claim — CEO and Creative Director of Van Cleef & Arpels, Mr Nicolas Bos. Van Cleef & Arpel’s watchmaking is less concerned with the passing of minutes and seconds and more about creating emotion. This is why, in the world of VC&A’s poetic storytelling, you’re likely to find the time being told with a flower or the wing of a fairy. We chat to Mr Bos about the importance of this approach and the brand’s Extraordinary Objects, one-off creations that combine high jewellery skills, timekeeping and automata that definitely live up to the name. Artem Straps , they’re for daddies. Find them here. Want to debate the merits of boring watches? Join our Discord and do it. Show Notes: https://www.otpodcast.com.au/show-notes The Cartiers on Audible Francois Junod, automaton builder Van Cleef & Arpels Van Cleef & Arpels on Instagram Van Cleef & Arpels Fée Ondine in motion   How to follow us: Instagram: @ot.podcast Facebook: @OTPODCASTAU Follow hosts: @fkscholz + @andygreenlive on Instagram. Send us an email: [email protected] If you liked our podcast - please remember to like/share and subscribe.