In this episode of Beyond the Thesis with Papa PhD I bring you a treasure from the vault from season 1 of the podcast – my conversation with Joe Makkerh, who shares remarkable journey from the rigours of academic research to the pharmaceutical industry, and ultimately to becoming a business owner. Joe shares invaluable insights on the importance of being approachable, of selflessly helping others, and on the courage to seek help when you need it.In it we delve into the romanticized perception of academia often portrayed in the media versus the actual resilience needed to overcome the failures that are part and parcel of the scientific process. During our conversation we discussed the solitary nature of academic research projects and the blurred lines between personal life and work, exacerbated by the guilt associated with taking time off work—something many graduate students grapple with.We touch upon critical skills acquired during graduate studies, such as problem-solving, rapid research, and data simulation, and their lasting impact on professional life. Joe opens up about his transition from academia to industry, the value of maintaining a strong network, and the importance of continual learning and personal growth.Stay tuned as Joe recounts fascinating anecdotes illustrating the important balance between competition and cooperation in academia. This episode is packed with advice for young graduates, emphasising employability, understanding finance, and the crucial role of relationships in career success.Don’t miss this touching conversation filled with wisdom and practical tips on navigating both academic and professional landscapes. Be sure to subscribe to "Beyond the Thesis with Papa PhD" for more inspiring stories and insightful discussions about life after the PhD. Joe Makkerh is a former scientist, now an entrepreneur working in high-end audio. Since finishing his PhD in cellular and molecular zoology, Joe transitioned from researcher to academic administrator to MBA student to business owner. His academic career has taken him from London to Heidelberg, to Montreal, where he now develops his business. What we covered in the interview: The Power of Asking for Help: Many graduate students struggle with seeking assistance beyond their academic work. It's crucial to realise that asking for help is a strength, not a weakness. Building a supportive network can make a significant difference.Transitioning from Academia to Industry: Moving from the world of academic research to the pharmaceutical industry offered Joe Makkerh valuable lessons in resilience and dealing with failure. Embracing these challenges head-on is key to personal and professional growth.Maintaining Work-Life Balance: The blurred lines between personal life and work can take a toll on health and relationships. Prioritising self-care and setting boundaries is essential for long-term success and wellbeing. This episode’s resources: Website: baetisaudio.com Thank you, Joe Makkerh! If you enjoyed this conversation with Joe, let him know by clicking the link below and leaving him a message on Linkedin:Send Joe Makkerh a thank you message on Linkedin!Click here to share your key take-away from this interview with David! Leave a review on Podchaser ! Support the show ! You might also like the following episodes: Vikie Pedneault – Engaging Through ComedyAndy Churchill –Presenting for ImpactAmani Said – How to Make impact with Your CareerInes Thomas Almeida – A Winding Journey From Biology to MusicologyAs always, if you find value in Papa PhD and in the content I bring you every week, click on one of the buttons below and send some of that value back to me by becoming a supporter on Patreon or by buying me a coffee :)