What do you do with your hands and arms when you are standing in front of your audience? Have you penguin and T-rex arms? Sometimes it's difficult to know what to do.  Carina and Martin discuss and give tips and pieces of advice. Send us questions to: info AT pik DOT nu, or contact us via Carina's site or Martin's Bio.Link page. You could also contact us on LinkedIn (Carina Ridenius and Martin Lindeskog). Show notes with links to articles, blog posts, products and services: Indian summerNonverbal communicationPen Meets Paper podcastWhat to Do With Your Hands in Social Situations (& What NOT to Do) - Science of People DOT com60 Hand Gestures You Should Be Using and Their MeaningDr. Laura Sicola - Vocal Impact ProductionsGesticulation in ItalianThe Fountain Guide to Value for Value - Fountain.fmThe Feedback Loop - Value4Value.info The episode (6 minutes) was recorded at 1330 Central European Time, on October 21, 2022, with Ringr app.. Martin did the editing and post-production with the podcast maker, Alitu. The transcript is generated by Alitu.