When Nakkiah and Miranda drew up their interview wish list for the podcast it was dominated by African American actors, writers and musicians. Like so many other young Australians, Miranda and Nakkiah have looked to the US for inspiration. In politics, protest and art, the African American community has shown talented young Indigenous Australians a way forward — towards success, change and brilliance. In this episode Miranda and Nakkiah chat with Australian actor and Orange Is The New Black star Yael Stone about heroes, allies, cultural cringe, fame and how we tell stories and make art about life in Australia that will inspire a younger generation.