Zack and Peterson are back to talk about a new (old) product on the market: celibacy! Also known as “ex-gay lite.” Since the ex-gay movement has largely crumbled in recent years and it’s no longer convincing to argue that sexual orientation can be changed, conservatives are now encouraging gay, lesbian, and bisexual people to just […]

Zack and Peterson have new stories to tell about foreign worlds. Peterson’s new projects addressing climate change are not getting the warmest reception in LGBT spaces, nor are there many LGBT people at the climate change conferences he’s attended. Likewise, Zack attended his first atheist conference, speaking at the American Atheists national conference in April, […]

Zack and Peterson are together for the holidays, and rather than yak about Utah or Duck Dynasty, the two follow the travels of the afterbirth of Jesus in the Lost Gospel of the Holy Placenta. Enjoy this lighthearted and only slightly blasphemous holiday episode and let us know what you want to hear from us […]

Two episodes within less than a month’s time! It’s like some government shutdown miracle! This week’s episode is dedicated to talking about that “religious liberty” concept conservatives are always throwing around. What do they mean when they say it and how are they trying to use it do keep discriminating against LGBT people? Does a […]

Thanks to the flattery of Ben, Zack and Peterson found time for a new episode. (It may have helped that Zack is under the weather.) Among the topics are Christians are “not all like that” (NALT), how the Pope really is like that, and Peterson’s second wedding — don’t worry, it’s to the same person […]

This episode features Peterson Toscano’s tell-all about Andrew Marin and The Marin Foundation, best known for encouraging Christians to attend Pride events holding signs apologizing for how churches have harmed LGBT people. Zack listens as Peterson shares his roller coaster of confusing about whether or not The Marin Foundation is actually helping build bridges between […]

Not only are Zack and Peterson truly back, but for once they’re actually in the same room! Broadcasting from Zack’s apartment in Washington, DC, we discussed the epic change up at Exodus International — namely, Alan Chambers’s apology for the ex-gay ministry and announcement last week that he was shutting it down. A big chapter […]

Inspired by Arrested Development, Zack and Peterson have returned from their indeterminate hiatus. Peterson discusses the passing of his father, and Zack offers a few updates from the blogging world. Peterson is also now a climate activist, and rightfully so! If you’re excited that we’re back, you should leave some comments, or tweet us, and […]

After Zack stops yakking about his momentous musical weekend, Peterson welcomes his husband, wanna-be swing voter Glen Retief, and nephew, “G,” to the Queer and Queerer intergenerational white-man presidential election roundtable. The group digs into some foreign policy issues, religion, and the many Mitt Romneys.

Peterson has recently uncovered the lost book of Thaddeus, that was hidden away and kept out of the Bible. He imparts its wisdom upon Zack, who is no more convinced by its alternate depiction of the life of Jesus than of the original tellings. He’s more excited that he’ll be speaking at his alma mater, […]

Zack’s blog has found salvation after being completely reconstructed, allowing it to be cleansed of its impurities and restored to new life. Similarly, Peterson has returned from his month of journeying across Europe and eagerly regales Zack and listeners with tales of his misdeeds. In fact, Peterson had quite an impact on how people think […]

The long-lost episode! This was originally recorded August 13, 2012, but was the first lost when Zack’s blog was in disrepair. Now it’s back and ready to be listened to in case you missed it! Peterson and Zack are back to have a conversation about the intersection of faiths. Peterson is getting ready to head […]

The married Peterson and award-winning Zack are back with an intense conversation about the outing of people who use the closet to hold anti-gay positions, an extension of a conversation from way back in Episode 3. The conversation focuses on a very specific outing, that of Jonathan Merritt, an evangelical writer who takes mixed positions on […]

Marriage is an issue talked about a lot, but weddings themselves less so. Given Peterson’s impending nuptials (THIS WEEKEND!!!), it seemed an apropos topic. So what is this whole “wedding” concept? Is it a heterosexual institution? What’s the point of the ceremony? Zack and Peterson go back and forth about their own experiences at weddings […]

No doubt, allies are crucial to every community, but being an ally is not easy nor simple role to play. Zack and Peterson talk with the Anarchist Revered, Shannon Kearns, to discuss how allies sometimes get it wrong. Sometimes allies make it all about them, or believe that apologizing for the actions of their church […]

Zack and Peterson are back after a week off with a lovely conversation about LGBTQ identities. Peterson talks about his ecstatic dancing and Bible lectures at the Quaker Jamboree, the duo discuss the significance of Anderson Cooper’s coming out, and Zack pontificates a bit on “pride.” If this half hour isn’t enough, make sure to […]

It seems these days that everyone is talking about vaginas, except of course for those folks who are offended by people talking about vaginas. Zack and Peterson talk vaginas and the Michigan state representative battle over women’s bodies and rights to their bodies that is also happening all over the United States right now. Depending […]

Zack and Peterson welcome Abby Jensen (@Arizona_Abby) for an epic discussion about a variety of issues affecting the transgender community and intersections with other communities and movements. Abby is an attorney, trans woman, feminist and general rabble rouser on trans, LGB, and other social justice issues. She is also an avid follower and tweeter of the […]

Zack doesn’t know how to count, because obviously this is episode 63, not 62. Peterson and Zack resume their in-depth personally challenging conversations about the nature of faith and how we interact with it. Peterson discusses the various ways he challenges how people respond to the Bible and interpret the stories, and as a result […]

Zack and Peterson are back after a very slight delay this past week, and the episode is jam-packed to compensate. Birds in the background. Bank Holidays. Memorial Day. Fighting ex-gay therapy abroad. Latin America’s Oprah/Jerry Springer? Federico García Lorca. The National Organization for Marriage’s race-wedging. Marriage polling that counters conservatives’ narratives. Dolores Huerta. Burritos. And more! […]