Guess who I ran into on the beautiful island of Lesvos: Karen McLeod, author of the amazing memoir Lifting Off. Karen sat down with me at Ohana Saloon, a queer-owned beach bar in Skala Eressos, and told me about her performance art, about working as aircrew as a queer woman, experiences with addiction, and about a new Lesvos-related book she is just starting to write… Warning for the noise-sensitive: you will be able to hear the ocean, the wind, and the many, many lesbians. Learn more about Karen’s work on Instagram @therealkarenmcleod and see @queerlitpodcast for our newest episodes.   References:  Out and Wild Barbara Brownskirt Lifting Off In Search of a Missing Eyelash Muswell Press The Bookseller Crow Cindy Sherman Section 28 Polari Shirley Valentine The Short Tall Letter  https://karenmcleod.substack.com/ Julia Darling’s Crocodile Soup Jackie Kay Stella Duffy   Questions you should be able to respond to after listening:      We are recording in Skala Eressos, which has a close connection to Lesbian poet Sappho. Why not take a moment to read more about Sappho right now?     Karen begins by speaking about her experience of not being able to be out at work. Do you ever have to hide parts of yourself, based on where you are and who you interact with?     Karen briefly mentions Section 28. If you are not familiar, please look up what this term means in the context of the United Kingdom and homophobic legislation.     Karen and I speak about how amazing intergenerational queer spaces are. Do you share that experience? Why do you think different age groups can learn from one another, especially in an LGBTQIA2S+ context?