In this conversation, Steve Chalke shares his journey from a challenging childhood in South London to becoming a prominent church leader and social justice advocate. He discusses the founding of Oasis, a charity aimed at providing support and shelter for vulnerable youth, and reflects on the challenges faced in this mission. Chalke emphasizes the importance of personal experiences in shaping one's understanding of faith and theology, particularly in the context of social justice and community service. In this conversation, Jason and Steve explore profound themes of faith, love, justice, and the true message of Jesus. They discuss the challenges of understanding God's goodness in the face of grief, the social activism of Jesus, and the misconceptions surrounding penal substitutionary atonement. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of love and relationship in healing and transformation, as well as the need for a restorative approach to justice. They also delve into the significance of original goodness, the impact of trauma on behavior, and the transformative journey of understanding God's heart for humanity. For more information on Steve Chalke Oasis Charitable Trust: www.oasisuk.org www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Chalke Please rate, review, share, and subscribe! Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/rethinking-god/support