After the release of BBC’s File on 4 undercover investigation, on the 3 October 2023, into “sham training” in the security industry, Íse sits down with Ann Marie Chebib, Managing Director of Select Security and Secretary of UK Crowd Management Association and Global Crowd Management Alliance and KT Sonnen (from our first episode), COO of Invictus Professional Training and PhD student to frame this issue in the wider context of the industry. We take a step back to look at the bigger picture and understand the causes and conditions that come together to influence industry practice. Join me in learning insights from Anne Marie and KT to the reality of the industry, from the challenges we face to the evolution of our industry in professionalising and improving competency to keep people safe at events. BBC News article: ⁠https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66923084⁠ Segment from Íse’s dissertation into legislation and regulation on crowd safety: https://www.isemurphy.com/legislation-regulation-and-crowd-safety/ Ann Marie Chebib: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-marie-chebib-86974849/ KT Sonnen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kt-sonnen/ Acronyms and initialisms: AO = Awarding Organisation SIA = ⁠Security Industry Authority ⁠ UKCMA = ⁠United Kingdom Crowd Management Association⁠ GCMA = ⁠Global Crowd Management Alliance⁠ NTIA = Night Time Industry Association  SGSA = Sports Ground Safety Authority  EIF = Event Industry Forum