Episodes
Published 01/11/22
We bring back one of our favorites this week, the wonderful Stefani Hutchison. Stefani was never a scientologist, but has taken up the cudgel of exposing the lies of scientology on her excellent blog: Confront and Shatter. In this episode, we cover some of the sleuth work Stefani has done, investigating the claims made by scientology and their front groups.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 01/11/22
Leah and Mike start 2022 with one of our favorites -- more Listener Questions. We cover a wide scope of topics, from Fair Game campaign tactics to preserving Hubbard's "legacy" on stainless steel plates in titanium capsules in nuclear-bomb-proof vaults and the embarrassing "We Stand Tall" song video... Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 01/04/22
Leah and Mike continue their discussion from last week about Committees of Evidence with Claire Headley, covering the snitch culture of scientology and the subject of Knowledge Reports -- one of the most important control mechanisms within the scientology world.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 12/21/21
Leah and Mike talk to their old friend and Aftermath OG Claire Headley again this week, this time to discuss Committees of Evidence. What are they exactly, our personal experiences convening, participating and being victims of them, and how they differ from arbitration. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 12/14/21
This week Leah and Mike talk to their old friend Chris Shelton about cult apologists. These are the people who make a career (often lucrative) out of offering expert academic opinions in support of "New Religious Movements" -- cults. It's a racket that scientology has used to gain credibility. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 12/07/21
This week we have another one of our favorite Listener Questions episodes... We have a lot of great questions, including what the organization does with all the money it makes? Are the PI's scientologists? What would happen if we tried to rejoin scientology? What is the most bizarre Hubbard policy? Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 11/23/21
Leah and Mike welcome Dr. Willy Rice, Senior Pastor at Calvary Baptist Church in Clearwater to the podcast. Willy has been one of the few community leaders who has taken a strong, public stance against the abuses of scientology. We talk about the influence of scientology in the community and the lie that you can a Christian and a scientologist. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 11/16/21
Leah and Mike talk to filmmaker Aaron Kaufman. Known for producing Robert Rodriguez films, more recently he directed Crusaders, a documentary on Jehovah's Witnesses for Vice TV. Aaron was raised a JW. His doc focuses on the data base containing allegations of sexual abuse amassed by the organization which they have refused to make public. Plenty of scientology parallels in this discussion.   Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 11/09/21
Leah and Mike talk to a long term scientology whistleblower, Tory "Magoo" Christman. Her story covers the gamut -- OSA dirty tricks, disconnection, the Lisa McPherson Trust, being Fair Gamed and a whole lot more. It is an episode that seemed too short with such a bright, smart and kind person. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 11/02/21
Leah and Mike welcome Nora Ames, former SO member and outspoken whistleblower concerning the hypocrisy of scientology's rampant homophobia. She has one of the most incredible and harrowing escape from the Sea Org stories as well as what she did to get her mother out of scientology. Both her father and mother were scientology Guardian Office workers. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 10/26/21
Leah and Mike welcome their dear friend Amy Scobee. Amy was in charge of scientology Celebrity Centres for many years and had a lot of personal experience with scientology's biggest celebrities. She was also the catalyst for The Aftermath when she reached out with the story of her mother, Bonnie. They were featured in the first episode. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 10/19/21
Leah and Mike welcome back Julian Wain, who appeared with his wife Katherine in Episode 49. This time they discuss the Delphian schools -- Julian both attended and taught there. These, like other "Applied Scholastics" schools use Hubbard "technology" to indoctrinate kids and act as recruitment pools for the Sea Org, despite the public claims they make. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 10/12/21
 In this episode Leah and Mike talk to their old friend Aaron Smith-Levin about a wide variety of topics, including the status of Goliath the SP dog, but focus on his announcement that he is running to be elected to the Clearwater City Council and the activities of the Aftermath Foundation. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 10/07/21
A special edition of Listener Questions. Leah and Mike recorded this together in LA. As usual, they cover a lot of ground from why any OT would wear glasses and a question about Tom Cruise's bravery to High Crimes and the traits of an SP. Mike even has an answer that shocked Leah about something Hubbard claimed about himself.  Check out video from this Q&A on www.mikerindersblog.org Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 09/28/21
Leah and Mike talk with Nicole Norton and Becky Lovell , whistleblowers exposing the abuses of the RA MA Institute for Applied Yogic Science and Technology and its leader Guru Jagat (Katie Griggs). The stories of abuse, money motivation and a culture of worship of the guru are reminiscent of scientology and so many other high control organizations. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 09/21/21
Leah and Mike interview Gary "Jackson" Morehead, the former head of security at the confidential scientology headquarters near Hemet in Riverside County California. They cover the efforts taken to prevent Sea Org members from leaving, both physical and mental, what the "Blow Drill" consists of, what a "Life History" is and plenty more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 09/14/21
Leah and Mike do a deep dive into scientology finances and fundraising with Mat Pesch. Mat was formerly in charge of the money-making and money control divisions at the Flag Land Base -- the single largest source of revenue for scientology on earth. Mat's no nonsense explanations of the inner-workings of the scientology business machine are at times humorous, but always horrifying.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 08/31/21
Leah and Mike talk with Ian Rafalko and Dylan Follo.  Ian became an internet sensation when he posted a TikTok video about his father, scientologist chiropractor Eric Berg. Both were recently staff in scientology "ideal" orgs -- their experiences are pretty shocking. Ian's family has been torn apart and his wife chose scientology over him. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 08/23/21
Leah and Mike do a deep dive into the Sea Organization with Hana Whitfield, one of the first Sea Org members. Hana joined L. Ron Hubbard in Las Palmas in 1967, and went on to Captain various Sea Org ships and bases. We cover the early years of the formation of the SO, her recollections of Hubbard, his "Mission Into Time" and much more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 08/17/21
Leah and Mike take on more listener questions: Who does the Fair Gaming? What is CCHR? How scientology views the disabled? What PTSness is. Who was the Duke of Chug? Scientology's sense of humor... and much more. Leah and Mike even act out what happens in an auditing session.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 08/10/21
Leah and Mike are joined by Leah's mother, Vicki, to discuss the OT levels. Vicki achieved the highest level of scientology auditing, OT VIII. They discuss the earlier OT levels and their experiences on them and then Vicki's recollections of OT VIII and how underwhelming it was. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 08/03/21
Leah and Mike continue breaking down the Bridge to total Freedom towards the level of Clear with Bruce Hines. It's a stairway to heaven with turnstiles at every step. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 07/27/21
Leah and Mike's old friend Bruce Hines joins them for Part 1 breaking down the scientology "Bridge to Total Freedom." They delve into scientology testing, Introductory Services and how scientology hooks new customers ("raw meat"). Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 07/20/21
Leah and Mike talk to two members of Leah's family who disconnected after she left scientology and have now reconnected. It's an up close and personal look at scientology disconnection and "ethics." Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Published 07/19/21